TOWN OF ROSENDALE
PLANNING BOARD WORKSHOP
April 17, 2008
Chairman Billy Liggan called the Workshop to order at 7:45 pm at the Rosendale Community Center, Rosendale, NY.
ROLL CALL: Chairman,Billy Liggan – Present
Randi Morf – Present
Jeanne Walsh – Present
Fred Greitzer – Present
John McEnrue – Absent
Peter Perry – Absent
Joseph Havranek-Present
Nick Mercurio-Present
Gary Jacobson- Present
Charles Voss, C.T. Male Associates, Planning Board Consultant – Absent
Dave Plante, C.T. Male Associates, Planning Board Consultant – Present
Mary Lou Christiana, Esq. –Counsel, Town of Rosendale - Present
Minutes:
No minutes were reviewed at this workshop.
Public Hearings:
Ulster Cohousing # 2007-18 Major Subdivision
Numerous people from the public including Ken Adian, Ernie Shaw, Alonca Metzger and Mr Anderson voiced their concerns including ground water, wild life, traffic, construction time frame, blasting, fire/police protection, taxes over the project. Ellen Sribnick explained there were no changes from the last Public Hearing that this meeting was just a formality.
F.Greitzer –Motion to close Public Hearing J Walsh–seconded motion.
Roll Vote: B.Liggan – Yes, J.Walsh – Yes, F. Greitzer – Yes, G. Jacobson-Yes,
J. Havranek– Yes, R. Morf – Yes, N. Mercurio-Yes
Old Business:
Part 2 of the Environmental Assement form was reviewed and completed and read line by line for the record.
R. Morf –Motion to accept completed EAF. J.Havranek- seconded motion.
Roll Vote: B.Liggan – Yes, J.Walsh – Yes, F. Greitzer – Yes, G. Jacobson-Yes,
J. Havranek– Yes, R. Morf – Yes, N. Mercurio-Yes
Determination of Significance
For reasons that are elaborated in detail and in a written form (see attached Resolution # ) a Motion for a negative Declaration was made by F.Greitzer and J Havranek-seconded the motion.
Roll Vote: B.Liggan – Yes, J.Walsh – Yes, F. Greitzer – Yes, G. Jacobson-Yes,
J. Havranek– Yes, R. Morf – Yes, N. Mercurio-Yes
RMA – Needs to be recorded on map for file
Declaration of Convenants
County Recommendations Motion to overrule county’s recommendations for Post office
Fire Hydrants- water system didn’t have the pressure to operate; a stand pipe was installed in the pond
F.Greitzer –Motion to over rule county’s requests. J Walsh-seconded motion.
Roll Vote: B.Liggan – Yes, J.Walsh – Yes, F. Greitzer – Yes, G. Jacobson-Yes,
J. Havranek– Yes, R. Morf – Yes, N. Mercurio-Yes
Poll Vote taken for monumenting the property
Poll Vote: B.Liggan – Abstained, J.Walsh – Yes, F. Greitzer – Yes, G. Jacobson-Yes,
J. Havranek– Yes, R. Morf – Yes, N. Mercurio-Yes
Conditional Site Plan Approval by Planning Board Motioned by R.Morf, seconded by J.Walsh
Roll vote: B.Liggan – Yes J.Walsh – Yes, F. Greitzer – Yes, G. Jacobson-Yes,
J. Havranek– Yes, R. Morf – Yes, N. Mercurio-Yes. Motion carried. Conditional approval granted contingent on all conditions outlined in attached Memo from CT Male dated April 18, 2008 are met within the required time frame for conditional Site plan (set forth in 75-40) approval and prior to any building permits are issued .
Jobbis- #2008-4 Site Plan
F.Greitzer Motion to approve Site plan, seconded by R. Morf
Roll vote: B.Liggan – Abstained, J.Walsh – Yes, F. Greitzer – Yes, G. Jacobson-Yes,
J. Havranek– Yes, R. Morf – Yes, N. Mercurio-Yes
J. Havranek and J. Walsh to sign maps
Misc. Board Business:
Discussion on who the Vice Chairman is for the board, B Liggan nominated Joe Havranek for the position
Roll vote: B.Liggan – Yes, J.Walsh – Yes, F. Greitzer – Yes, G. Jacobson-Yes,
J. Havranek– Abstained, R. Morf – Yes, N. Mercurio-Yes
Chairman Liggan informed the Board, William Janeway, Director of Region 3 will address the board at the next meeting scheduled May 1, 2008.
Correspondence:
None
F.Greitzer made the motion to adjourn the meeting at 11:05 p.m.
G. Jacobson seconded the motion.
Roll Vote: B.Liggan – Yes, J.Walsh – Yes, F. Greitzer – Yes, G. Jacobson –Yes
J. Havranek– Yes, P. Perry – Yes, R. Morf – Yes, N. Mercurio-Yes.
Motion Carried.
Meeting Adjourned
Respectfully Submitted,
Leslie Treut
Planning Board Clerk
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PLANNING BOARD MINUTES
April 3, 2008
Chairman Billy Liggan called the meeting to order at 7:35 pm at the Rosendale Community Center, Rosendale, NY.
ROLL CALL: Chairman, Billy Liggan – Present
Randi Morf – Present
Jeanne Walsh – Present
Fred Greitzer – Present
John McEnrue – Absent
Peter Perry - Present
Joseph Havranek- Present
Nick Mercurio- Present
Charles Voss, C.T. Male Associates, Planning Board Consultant – Present
Dave Plante, C.T. Male Associates, Planning Board Consultant - Present
Minutes:
The minutes from the March 6, 2008 meeting were reviewed. The following amendments were made:
Page 2, end of Ulster Cohousing paragraph add the following statement from Joe Havaranek “it was in detail explained to the applicant the difference between conventional build out verses cluster development and cluster developments are subject to different regulations including Rosendale town code 75-26 and open space preservation is the main requirement .
Joe Havranek made the motion to accept the minutes as amended.
Peter Perry seconded the motion
Roll Vote: B.Liggan – Yes, Peter Perry - Yes, F. Greitzer – Yes, J.Walsh – Obstained J. Havranek– Yes, R. Morf – Yes, N. Mercurio-Yes.
Motion Carried.
Public Hearings:
Dietz- #2008-2 Major Subdivision
Several questions were asked from the Public on exactly where this property is located
This was addressed by the applicant and shown on the map.
John Rahl questioned the right of way/easement rights.
Joe Havranek suggested that Mr. Rahl submit his deed to the Town Attorney for review. It was recommended by the board that Mr Rahl’s Attorney, Mr Dietz’s Attorney and the towns Attorney review this matter and get back to the board.
John Masters asked weather an environmental impact study will be conducted?
Joe Havranek motioned the Public Hearing remain opened till May 1, 2008 for the purpose of additional public comments, including but not limited written concerns and any other concerns to Mr Rahl’s deed/ right of way claim. Randi Morf seconded the motion.
Roll Vote: B.Liggan – Yes, F. Greitzer – Yes, P Perry- Yes-
J. Havranek– Yes, R. Morf – Yes, N. Mercurio-Yes. J Walsh-Yes
Mr Deitz was informed the following information needs to be provided for next meeting:
Provide information to Town Attorney.
Contact NYDEC concerning endangered species on property
Inquiry to SHPO concerning the wetland issues- pictures need to be taken of property in all directions, storm water issues – no permit required.
Set up Escrow account-$2500.00
Ballincurry Woods #2008-3 Major Subdivision
Public Hearing Concerns about sewer and well water
F.Greitzer motioned to close the Public hearing, Randi Morf seconded motion
Roll Vote: B.Liggan – Yes, F. Greitzer – Yes, P Perry- Yes-
J. Havranek– Yes, R. Morf – Yes, N. Mercurio-Yes. J. Walsh-Yes
Storm water issues concerning runoff issues caused by the project. The board and Ct Male are requesting an engineers report.
Establish an Escrow Account of $2500.00.
Archeology study needs to be conducted – Letter sent awaiting reply
Old Business
Ulster Cohousing#2007-18 Special use Permit
Open space issues – concerning monuments needs to be iron out by Attorneys.
Attorneys to work out details regarding this application classification whether this application requires a Site plan Approval or a Plat Approval and what code this application falls under? Public Hearing is scheduled for April 17, 2008 @7:30 pm.
Motioned by F.Greitzer, second by P.Perry
Roll Vote: B.Liggan – Yes, F. Greitzer – Yes, P Perry- Yes-
J. Havranek– Yes, R. Morf – Yes, N. Mercurio-Yes. J. Walsh-Yes
Jobbis - #2008-4 Site plan
Lot line adjustment
Curb cut –driveway permit approved by DOT.
Type 2 SEQRE determination - the board classified the project as a type II action persistent to the state Environmental Quality Review Act. Motioned made by Joe Havranek to classify as a Type II action. Motioned seconded by R Morf.
Roll Vote: B.Liggan – Yes, F. Greitzer – Yes, P Perry- Yes-
J. Havranek– Yes, R. Morf – Yes, N. Mercurio-Yes. J. Walsh-Yes
Public hearing waived
J. Havranek motioned to waive Public Hearing, second by P.Perry
Roll Vote: B.Liggan – Yes, F. Greitzer – Yes, P Perry- Yes-
J. Havranek– Yes, R. Morf – Yes, N. Mercurio-Yes. J. Walsh-Yes
Applicant needs to file RMA with the County Clerks office.
Modify spaces on the Site Plan by removing 7 parking spaces.
Submit a new map and amend the application by April 17, 2008.
New Business
Pre application LeFevre Falls Mansion
The applicants are a Re entry House – Horizon Center
CT Male will check into the number of people allowed and the code which this application will fall under. Applicant needs to submit a application by April 17, 2008
Misc Business
B Liggans suggested to members to take advantage of courses being offered
New application forms – volunteers to work on finalizing forms
J Havranek, P. Perry and (Alt)B.Liggans volunteered..
Master Plan Zoning Codes
F.Greitzer, J. Havranek, N Mercurio, and B. Liggans (Alt) volunteered to review Zoning Codes.
Meeting adjourned @ 11:45 pm
Motioned by F.Greitzer, seconded by P.Perry
Roll Vote: B.Liggan – Yes, F. Greitzer – Yes, P Perry- Yes-
J. Havranek– Yes, R. Morf – Yes, N. Mercurio-Yes. J. Walsh-Yes
Respectfully Submitted,
Leslie Treut
Planning Board Clerk |