regularly meeting on January 12, 2004 at 7 PMQuorum: Rick Fritschler, ch.; Roberta Clements, Kelli Havranek,

Lisa Kellogg, Attilio Contini, Ernest Dewitt, Michael Montella,

Gary Schwartz, Dietrich Werner, Fred GreitzerConsultant: Peter FairweatherHonored Guests: Karen Cathers, Beverley Keith, Christina Peone,

Miriam Strouse, Alex Lines, John Maylie, Justin Peone, et al

Minutes: the minutes of the previous meeting were approved.Old Business:

that the mailing to all Town of Rosendale Boards, Commissions and

Committees of the Preliminary Recommendations for the

Comprehensive Plan, November 2003 with requests for their

comments, has been completed;

that the response to which is being awaited;

and discussion regarding the possibility of an extension of the

Jan. 30, 2004 dead-line, to give time for comment.New Business:

Discussion of the first two sections of the Preliminary Recommendations

for the Comprehensive Plan, November 2003.Motions:

Points of Information, without division:that not all development yields a positive taxes/services ratio;

that incentives should be in the form of relief from code restrictions;

that under current law, trade of development rights for

conservation easements is on an equal area basis;

that developments on steep slopes might have individual building height

and design constraints depending on visual impact;

that most zones permit cluster housing, usually including town-houses;

that clusters of small stores, particularly at cross-roads,

are important centers of public interaction;

that applicants for non-conforming uses must show hardship;

that side-walks are an important need in some areas;

that side-walks are to be differentiated from trails,

as being in the public rights-of-way,

and their construction not involving use of eminent domain;

that state highway agencies refer to a town's master plan for guidance

in developing their own plans;

that the Town of Rosendale should recommend or encourage, rather than

ensure, a resolution of business-district parking issues;

that it is desirable that commercial buildings eschew a flat roof

or boxy appearance, unless fronted by for example cornices;

that the Main Street business district is zoned R-3;

that creating any special use district may be construed by

some property owners to be a taking;

that creation of for example historic districts is by initiative of

property owners, not the town;

that a bio-diversity study will not be available before the anticipated

completion of the comprehensive master plan;

that some cemetery properties have no legal owner, as being a

type of public commons;

that minutes of the meetings of this Committee will be made available

at the Town of Rosendale library;

question regarding clarification of this Committee's intent in regard

to zoning density;

question regarding relationship of terrain to zoning density;

question regarding incentive zoning for development,

its purpose and methods, as in for example cluster development;

question regarding creative siting and design;

question regarding idiosycratic situations;

question regarding development of a new zone definition for mixed use;

question regarding specific over-lay zones;

question regarding spot-zoning definition;

question regarding relevance of property history;

question regarding hamlet meeting spaces;

question regarding deleting all mention of trails;

question regarding how to make Route 213 safe for non-motorized uses;

question regarding public access to Central Hudson rights-of-way;

question regarding extending the R-3 zone of the down-town

business district;

question regarding regularizing existing uses;

question regarding desirability of developing agricultural districts;

question regarding appropriate town publicity functions regarding

for example historic districts;

question regarding the goal of the inventory of cement-industry

historical sites,

answered that it is intended for preservation purposes;

question regarding referring this matter to the

Town of Rosendale Historic Preservation Commisssion;

and question regarding obtaining a grant for this purpose.

There being no further business, the meeting was adjourned at 9:45 PM.Next Meeting: Monday, Feb 9, 2004 at 7 PM

These are the minutes of the meeting of the Town of Rosendale Comprehensive Master Plan Committee; held on January 12, 2004;

as ordered by Henry Robert; as taken this day by me, Fred Greitzer.

Town of Rosendale Comprehensive Master Plan Committee

regularly meeting on April 12, 2004 at 7 PM

Quorum: Rick Fritschler, ch.; Kelli Havranek, Lisa Kellogg,

Attilio Contini, Ernest Dewitt, Michael Montella, Gary Schwartz,

Dietrich Werner, Fred Greitzer

Consultant: Peter Fairweather

Honored Guests: Deb Tierney

1) from Planning Board, Police Department, and Water and Sewer

Commission: responses to the Preliminary Recommendations for the

Comprehensive Plan, November 2003;

2)from Consultant: Overview of Public Outreach Meetings;

3)from Consultant: Requested Definitions of Terms;

4)from Consultant: Preliminary Analysis of Commercial Tax Base;

5)from Consultant: Rosendale's Ranking in Value per Acre for

Selected Commercial uses;

6)from Consultant: Map of Lands with Additional Development Potential;

7)from Central Hudson: response to query regarding public access

to utility right-of-way.

Minutes: The minutes of the previous meeting, held on Feb. 9, 2004, were approved as amended:

delete:

replace with:

Old Business: discussion of Preliminary Recommendations for the

Comprehensive Plan, November 2003, pp. 17-end.

Motions: none

that there remains little developable land available in the town,

with 30.8% vacant, not considering physical constraints or

zoning restrictions;

that there is a low commercial and industrial tax base in the town;

that undeveloped land consumes the least tax resources;

that residential development consumes the most taxes relative

to revenue produced;

that commercial properties have an expense/tax revenue proportion

intermediate to undeveloped and residential lots;

that the Iron Mountain facility has relatively low added value

and large number (app. 400) of acres, but requires few resources;

and that this property alone skews some of the statistics;

that rising governmental salaries require that taxes must go up;

that taxes are based on the physical plant,

and therefore that storage facilities do not fully develop the

tax base;

that business assessments are relatively low in the town;

that mixed-use is tax-beneficial;

that new housing construction cannot be "affordable" without being

subsidized, because of fixed costs;

that housing rehabilitation does not present this situation;

that traffic-law enforcement has historically been problematic;

that desirable types of tourism must be defined;

that this committee should identify properties within the commercial

corridor that are unsuitable for use because of for example

physical constraints;

that the 1989 Ulster County water supply plan has not been implemented;

that Central Hudson allows access to its owned properties

with permission, but this does not extend to its rights-of-way;

and that the dead-line for committee written comments is 5/3/04;

question regarding specific properties used for tourism and lodging;

question regarding number of tax-exempt properties,

answered that this figure is not currently available;

question regarding a business outreach committee, to encourage

certain types of commercial development;

question regarding land-trusts and land-banking, and limits

to appreciation;

question regarding noise ordinances and business hours of operation,

and that noise ordinance enforcement is problematic;

question regarding inclusion of a "Good Neighbor" policy in the

master plan;

question regarding appropriate scale of industrial development;

question regarding how industrial siting was determined;

question regarding desirability of zoning all of Route 32 within

town limits commercial;

and question regarding need to change configuration of

industrial zones.

There being no further business, the meeting was adjourned at 9:50 PM.

Next Meetings:

Monday May 3, 2004 at 7 PM

Monday May 10, 2004 at 7 PM

These are the minutes of the meeting of the Town of Rosendale Comprehensive Master Plan Committee, regularly held on April 12, 2004; as ordered by Henry Robert; as taken this day by me, Fred Greitzer.

regularly meeting on Monday, May 10, 2004 at 7 PM

Quorum: Rick Fritschler, ch.; Kelli Havranek, Lisa Kellogg, Frank Boccio, Attilio Contini,

Michael Montella, Gary Schwartz, Dietrich Werner, Fred Greitzer

Consultant: Peter Fairweather

Honored Guests: Deb Tierney, John Maylie, Sid Norinsky

Minutes: The minutes of the April meeting were approved, as amended:

"that residential services consumes the most delete taxes replace with services

relative to revenue received"

Received: from Kelli Havranek: Review of Commercial and Industrial Assessment Levels

New Business: discussion to page 13 of the Consultant's Preliminary Recommendations

for the Comprehensive Plan, November 2003.

that the Chairman shall communicate with adjacent Towns, sending a copy

of this Committee's current draft Consultant's Preliminary Recommendations

for the Comprehensive Plan;

that the Town of Rosendale has a stormwater-control program, which has not yet

been implemented;

that the Town of Rosendale must enact current revisions of SPEDES;

that the Town of Rosendale is currently undergoing reassessment;

that current assessment is at 60% market value, 20 years ago at 100%;

that almost no additional industrial siting is possible in the Town of Rosendale

other than as identified by the concerned Town of Rosendale Committee,

given the constraints of conservation easements, slopes, wetlands,

and proximity of residential housing;

and that future tax ratables must therefore be based primarily on what has

already been established;

that residential housing is relatively affordable, in that median house price is in line

with median income, by conventional standards;

that the Ulster County Development Corporation will have available guide-lines in

September 2004 in regard to affordable housing;

that the fiscal impact of any single commercial project is minimal;

that potentially developable corridors should be identified, with their appropriate

types of improvement;

that net fiscal impacts of large projects has relevance under SEQRA in the DEIS Long Form

for Planning Board and Zoning Board of Appeals deliberations;

that aquifer recharge zones should be identified;

question as to how fair market value is established;

question regarding assessment rate of multi-family dwellings;

question regarding assessment rate of multi-use dwellings;

question regarding disproportionality;

question regarding inviting a second assessment;

question regarding definition of developable properties;

question regarding density waivers for affordable housing;

question regarding cost/benefit analysis of development,

answered that school tax impact is the critical element therein;

question regarding renewal period of a master plan,

answered that revision is intrinsic;

question regarding expansion of current commercial districts;

and question regarding current farm operations in the Town of Rosendale.

There being no further business, the meeting was adjourned at 10:45 PM.

Next Meeting: Monday, June 14, 2004 at 7 PM.

These are the minutes of the meeting of the Town of Rosendale Comprehensive

Master Plan Committee, regularly held on Monday, May 10, 2004; as ordered by Henry Robert;

as taken this day by me, Fred Greitzer.

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Town of Rosendale Comprehensive Master Plan Committee

regularly meeting on June 14, 2004 at 7 PM

Quorum: Rick Fritschler, ch.; Roberta Clements, Kelli Havranek,

Lisa Kellogg, Attilio Contini, Michael Montella, Gary Schwartz,

Dietrich Werner, Fred Greitzer

Consultant: Peter Fairweather

Honored Guest: John Maylie

Minutes:The minutes of the previous meeting were approved, as amended:

delete that the Town of Rosendale must enact current revisions

replace with that the Town of Rosendale must enact two local

Received: 2004 Ulster County Directory

New Business:

Review of Consultant's Preliminary Recommendations for the

Comprehensive Plan, November 2003 pp. 14-21

Review of zoning map with overlay of all current restrictions

Motions: none

Points of Information without division,

matters discussed with no vote taken:

that a map with overlays showing all constraints on development in the

Town is now available;

that it is desirable to specify planning goals, rather than techniques;

that guide-lines should precede regulations, which are a last resort;

that incentives be non-financial, such as relaxing other restrictions;

that an Ulster County Open-Space Plan is currently being prepared,

with an anticipated time-frame for completion of 1½ - 2 years,

and that the Town of Rosendale should also prepare one;

question regarding desirability of establishing a scenic overlay

district, in addition to a conservation overlay, to protect the

viewshed, which would probably involve elevation and area

restrictions;

question regarding whether such district would not be unduly

restrictive of ownership rights,

answered that "reasonable public purpose" is legally upholdable,

and yet may restrict owners' rights,

and that relevant New York State law emphasizes the good of the whole

over that of the individual;

that "viewshed" refers to community-appreciative standards,

not perspectives from individual properties;

that if regulations to protect viewsheds are enacted, the

Town of Rosendale Zoning Board of Appeals would still

be empowered to issue variances therefrom;

that it is difficult for viewshed issues to substantially affect

projects, and that they are relatively easily complied with;

that it is imperative to identify critical viewsheds;

question regarding whether the existing railroad trestle would be

considered part of the view-shed;

question regarding whether section F, addressing constraints on

logging, scenic overlays and viewsheds, should be removed,

and question regarding strenthening logging ordinance,

answered that this matter is currently being discussed by the

Town of Rosendale Environmental Commission;

and that current applicable law mandates best management practices;

question regarding accessory apartments, with concerns regarding

water and septic systems,

answered that a single accessory apartment is currently permitted

to be added to single-occupancy dwellings in most districts,

that accessory apartments should be "allowed" as opposed

to "encouraged";

question regarding proactivity vs. reactivity in regard to development;

question regarding definition of "affordable housing,"

answered that it should be in relation to median family income;

question regarding using decibel or nuisance standards to define

excessive noise;

question regarding establishing different noise ordinances in different

zoning districts;

question regarding desirable traffic-calming techniques;

question regarding availability of a New York State official map,

for the purpose of identifying areas where the Town of Rosendale

would like the right of first refusal;

answered that such map is not currently available;

and that it would be desirable to obtain a list of all currently

town-owned properties.

Next Meeting: Monday July 12, 2004 at 7 PM

There being no further business, the meeting was adjourned at 9:30 PM.

These are the minutes of the meeting of the Town of Rosendale Comprehensive Master Plan Committee, regularly held on June 14, 2004; as ordered by Henry Robert; as taken this day by me, Fred Greitzer.

Town of Rosendale Comprehensive Master Plan Committee

regularly meeting on July 12, 2004

Quorum: Rick Fritschler, ch.; Kelli Havranek, Lisa Kellogg,

Attilio Contini, Ernest Dewitt, Michael Montella,

Gary Schwartz, Dietrich Werner, Fred Greitzer

Liaison to the Town Board: Patrick McDonough

Consultant: Peter Fairweather

Honored Guests: John Maylie, Deb Tierney, Joan Dewitt,

Gayle Grunwald

Minutes: The minutes of the previous meeting were approved.

New Business: Review of Consultant's Preliminary

November 2003 pp. 22-end

Motions: none

Points of Information, without division,

matters discussed with no vote taken:

that parking for commuter car-pooling is needed,

with question regarding whether this should be addressed

in the master plan,

answered that doing so would allow the town to apply

for state grants;

that there are several water systems within the town;

that it is a goal of all municipal departments to

improve efficiency;

that there is a need to define services provided to

town employees;

that the provision of such needs as for example

child-care services be further explored;

that not all town bodies elected to make recommendations

to this Committee;

that the Town of Rosendale Board should be the lead agency

for economic development;

that commercial development be in concurrence with a

coordinated approach, primarily focused on the

Route 32 corridor;

that the meaning of shovel-ready needs to be defined;

that the strike-outs (regarding sprawl) on p. 34 of the

instant document be retained as shown;

that mention of specific local destinations in the

master plan be deleted;

that mention of all specific reference texts and authors

be deleted;

that the plan should include images and illustrations;

and that a portion of which is to be made available

to Members prior to the next meeting;

that it is necessary to buffer residential areas

from development, utilizing such tools as set-back,

screening and other appropriate techniques;

with question regarding specific uses that require

consideration;

question regarding extending the current B-1 district

along Main St. (State Route 213) easterly,

that this would be a logical outgrowth of

current activity, with historical precedent cited,

and that it is recommended that this possibility be

further explored;

question regarding which roads should be considered

gate-ways to the town;

question regarding reducing taxes via such mechanisms

as intermunicipal sharing of services;

question regarding whether public support exists for

co-locating town offices,

and that mention in the plan of necessarily requiring a

new location for town offices be deleted;

question regarding whether school-system services should be

addressed in the master plan;

question regarding the appropriate level of residential

development within commercial districts;

question regarding the role of agriculture in the town;

question regarding whether snow-removal services need

to be addressed;

and question regarding the purpose of overlay zones,

as distinct from zoning districts.

Next Meeting: Monday, August 9, 2004 at 7 PM.

There being no further business, the meeting was adjourned at 9:45 PM.

These are the minutes of the meeting of the

Town of Rosendale Comprehensive Master Plan Committee,

regularly held on July 12, 2004; as ordered by

Henry Robert; as taken this day by me, Fred Greitzer.

Town of Rosendale Comprehensive Master Plan Committee

regularly meeting on Monday, August 9, 2004 at 7 PM

Quorum: Rick Fritschler, ch.; Roberta Clements, Kelli Havranek, Lisa Kellogg, Attilio Contini, Ernest Dewitt, Gary Schwartz, Dietrich Werner, Fred Greitzer

Honored Guests: Joan Dewitt, Deb Tierney, John Maylie

Received from Consultant:

1) Draft Recommendations for Community Services

2) Draft Comprehensive Plan August 2004

Minutes:The minutes of the previous meeting were approved.

Motions: none

Points of Information, without division: matters discussed with no vote taken:

that no Town of Rosendale fire-houses currently have ambulance service.

There being no further business, the meeting was adjouned at 7:30 PM.

Next Meeting: Monday, September 13, 2004

These are the minutes of the meeting of the Town of Rosendale

Comprehensive Master Plan Committee, regularly held on August 9, 2004;

as ordered by Henry Robert; as taken this day by me, Fred Greitzer.

Quorum: Rick Fritschler, ch.; Roberta Clements, Kelli Havranek, Lisa Kellogg, Frank Boccio, Attilio Contini, Michael Montella, Gary Schwartz, Dietrich Werner, Fred Greitzer

Consultant: Peter Fairweather

Honored Guests: Deb Tierney, John Maylie

Received:

1) from Consultant: Draft Comprehensive Plan dated August 2004

2) from Town of Rosendale Environmental Commission: letter dated September 13, 2004

Minutes: The minutes of the previous meeting were approved.

New Business: Review of Consultant's Draft

Motions: none

Points of Information, without division; matters discussed, with no vote taken:

that town demographics suggest a further need for senior housing;

that second home growth is larger than population census figures indicate;

that specific individual businesses not be named in the final document;

that references in the draft to caves be changed to mines;

that mixed-use zones be screened from prior existing residential areas;

that vacant, steeply-sloped, and wetland parcels be indicated,

with overlays superimposed on the base map;

that some parcels may not be listed on the Town of Rosendale tax map,

and that a disclaimer as to map accuracy is therefore necessary;

that other data sources need to be incorporated in the map;

that maps be made available as JPEG files;

that development mitigation incentives be specifically delineated;

that a hamlet is defined by the density of housing in the area,

and that specific examples of such should be identified;

that sidewalks be planned in B-2 zones,

and that new sidewalks should be logical extensions of existing infrastructure;

that this committee recommends that the eastern end of Main St. (Rt. 213)

be explored for rezoning, in consultation with the relevant property owners;

that it is necessary to identify open spaces that need to be protected, that would otherwise

be subject to development;

that land pressures force people to become innovative in building on previously unusable land;

that conservation easements should be included;

that Town of Rosendale pesticide and herbicide regulations apply only to rights-of-way,

not private properties;

that students need to be educated about the functions and bodies of local government;

that consensus language was taken to be a goal in the plan;

and that an implementation phase is to follow, in the regular course of this committee's work;

question regarding reviewing surplus town-owned properties, with their possible conversion

to senior housing;

question regarding the availability of such properties, perhaps to include abandoned schools,

and others as they become available;

question regarding whether the current document provides for the needs of the lower

middle-class and the poor;

question regarding the meaning of "high-quality" housing,

answered that quality housing embodies a diversity of styles, sizes and prices, designed to meet

the needs of the socio-economic spectrum of Rosendale's population;

question regarding whether current codes do not already mandate high-quality housing;

question regarding land use goals;

question regarding whether this committee should make specific zoning density

recommendations,

and question regarding specific recommendations in regard to soils, slopes, etc.;

answered that specific zoning language does not belong in a comprehensive master plan,

question regarding whether more sidewalks and bike paths are needed;

question regarding the necessity of preserving open space;

question regarding how open space should best be preserved;

question regarding the permissable types of business in a B-1 zone;

and question regarding next year's budget for this committee.

There being no further business, the meeting was adjourned at 10 PM.

Next Meeting: Monday, October 11, 2004 at 7 PM

These are the minutes of the meeting of the Town of Rosendale Comprehensive Master Plan Committee, regularly held on Monday, September 13, 2004; as ordered by Henry Robert;

as taken this day by me, Fred Greitzer.

Quorum: Rick Fritschler, ch.; Roberta Clements, Lisa Kellogg, Frank Boccio, Attilio Contini,

Michael Montella, Gary Schwartz, Dietrich Werner, Fred Greitzer

Consultant: Peter Fairweather

Honored Guests: Bob Gallagher, Supervisor, Town of Rosendale; Joan Maylie, Deb Tierney,

John Maylie

Minutes: The minutes of the previous meeting were approved.

1) Supervisor's Report:

that the Consultant and Chairman jointly consulted with the Supervisor;

that an Economic Development Commission has been instituted, charged with the development

of a 6-year plan, in conjuction with the Town of Rosendale Chamber of Commerce;

to promote the amenities of the Town of Rosendale;

to consider the development of existing facilities, both town- and privately-owned,

as conference centers;

to consider Town of Rosendale parking lots for other applications, as for example

flea markets and other popular events;

and to develop and promote town festivals, as for example the street festival, pickle festival, etc.;

and privately-sponsored celebrations;

that a Capital Fund Commisssionn has been established, in order to prioritize

both predictable and emergency needs;

and to seek infrastructure development grants subsidizing 50% of the costs thereof;

that extension of town sidewalks is to be considered;

that a bus stop with parking lot therefor are being developed;

that the town needs to increase revenue without raising taxes;

that school taxes in particular are impacting citizens on fixed incomes;

that highway, water and sewer, and parks and recreation infrastructures are priorities;

and that funding of these is of paramount importance.

2) Discussion of Consultant's Draft Comprehensive Plan dated August 2004; pp. 22-28;

Points of Information, without division; matters discussed, with no vote taken:

that a master plan provides support for grant applications, and is a requirement for such;

that slopes greater than 15% need to be identified;

that storm water regulations now require all properties to retain all storm water, as per

the MS-4 permit submissable to the Town of Rosendale enforcement officer,

which the DEC and EPA also will ensure;

that the town is currently using Ulster County's storm water plan;

that development not disrupt use of natural resources, as for example by disturbing

the integrity of shorelines;

that areas of subsidence need to be identified, as by soil and rock types;

that mapping of historic mines, etc., is currently being developed under the auspices

of Ulster County Community College;

that current logging law and regulation are inadequate;

that various types of ecosystems and biodiversity areas need to be identified,

in addition to established riparian zones;

that historic sites should be publicized, as for example to area students;

that there is current interest in the development of such large properties as become available,

despite some protection as for example by conservation easement;

and that enhanced graphics are to be included in the final version of the draft, forthcoming;

question regarding impositon of zoning districts on topographic maps,

answered that this will be included where readily performable;

question regarding the Town of Woodstock's elevation restrictions,

answered that they identify the areas to be protected, whereas, contra, the Town of Rosendale

has no single such entity visible from most areas, as for example Ohayo Mountain;

question regarding the status of the Town of Rosendale Environmental Commission's

recommendations,

answered that Commission comments are forthcoming,

and that such comments incorporated in the subsequent draft are to be clearly delineated

for the purposes of the Members;

question regarding the appearance of the Rt. 32 corridor,

answered that this highway is to be the principal area of commercial development;

question regarding coordination between various offficial bodies;

question regarding sustainability of financing of physical infrastructure,

answered that HUD money may be available,

and that up to $50,000 may also be available for reconstruction of the town pool;

question regarding whether the current draft plan is over-lengthy and restrictive,

answered that it is useful both to the Town of Rosendale and to various other parties of interest

to have an extensively developed and elaborated plan;

question regarding whether water protection requirements should be further specified,

answered that existing law takes precedence in this regard, and that the plan should maintain

such minimum required standards as for example set-backs, riparian zones,

defined best-management practices, etc.;

and question regarding how to define critical view-sheds.

Motions: none

There being no further business, the meeting was adjourned at 9:30 PM.

Next Meeting: Monday, November 8, 2004 at 7 PM

These are the minutes of the Town of Rosendale Comprehensive Master Plan Committee, regularly meeting on Monday, October 11, 2004; as ordered by Henry Robert; as taken this day by me, Fred Greitzer.

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Quorum: Dietrich Werner, ch. pro tem; Roberta Clements, Kelli Havranek,

Lisa Kellogg, Attilio Contini, Ernest Dewitt, Gary Schwartz,

Fred Greitzer

Consultant: Peter Fairweather

Honored Guests: Joan Dewitt, Deb Tierney, Joe Havranek, John Maylie

Received: Town of Rosendale Environmental Commission comments

on the draft (8/04) plan

Minutes: The minutes of the previous meeting were approved.

New Business: discussion of Consultant's draft plan pp. 29 ff

Motions: none

that the Consultant has been keeping the Supervisor apprised of the

Committee's progress,

and that further comments therefrom may be forthcoming;

that design guidelines are to be suggested in the final plan, to be included

in the subsequent draft;

that there will be additional specificity regarding visual aspects of

gateway districts;

that the final plan is required to be submitted to the Town of Rosendale

Planning Board and the Town of Rosendale Council, which are required

to hold public hearings; and also submitted to the

Ulster County Planning Board;

that outdoor burning regulation is currently under discussion at the

state level;

question regarding Town of Shawangunk master plan's provision for

"active senior adult" housing;

question regarding whether lighting and noise are problematic,

answered that there has been a history of complaints;

question regarding whether commercial and industrial sites should

receive priority from the Water and Sewer Commission,

answered that this is not current policy;

question regarding whether potential commercial development is limited

by water and sewer capacity;

and question regarding cost of expanding system capacities,

answered that this has been discussed by the relevant body,

further that previously-available grants are no longer forthcoming

for such purposes,

and that financial sustainability must be ensured for this

and other infrastructure needs.

There being no further business, the meeting was adjourned at 9:50 PM.

Next Meeting: Monday, December 13, 2004 at 7 PM

These are the minutes of the meeting of Town of Rosendale Comprehensive Master Plan Committee, regularly held on November 8, 2004; as ordered by Henry Robert; as taken this day by me, Fred Greitzer.

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Quorum: Rick Fritschler, ch.; Roberta Clements,

Kelli Havranek, Lisa Kellogg, Frank Boccio,

Attilio Contini, Michael Montella, Gary Schwartz,

Dietrich Werner, Fred Greitzer

Consultant: Peter Fairweather

Honored Guests: Joan Maylie, Deb Tierney, John Maylie

Minutes: The minutes of the previous meeting were approved.

1)Consultant's Draft Comprehensive Plan dated Dec. 2004

2)Town of Rosendale Environmental Commission comments

Motions: none

Points of Information, without division;

matters discussed, with no vote taken:

that a biodiversity assessment survey, open space inventory

and plan, when finalized by the Environmental

Commission and approved by the Town Board, shall be

included as an appendix to the Master Plan;

that the phrase preserve biodiversity shall be included

passim as appropriate in the draft plan;

that there should be a County ordinance requiring easements

to be listed in an available database, for example the

Real Property Service survey;

that there should be a recommendation for a Town

Conservation Overlay District;

that 10 acres is the legal minimum for a subdivision

including a conservation easement,

and that no further subdivision is permissible once

such easement has been granted;

that open space reservations should include ecologically

important habitats;

that coordination with various local land trusts is

desirable;

that riparian protection is mandated as part of the

MS-4 agreement with the County;

that the Master Plan should set directions, rather than

be tied to specific types of law;

that the logging ordinance needs review,

and clearing and grading standards likewise,

and that a consultant shouild be hired to develop

relevant ordinances therefor;

that the listing of threatened and endangered species

needs to be made current;

that designation of ecologically sensitive areas must be

able to withstand legal challenge,

and therefore must make reference to relevant state

listings;

that the Town could consider transforming the current

Environmental Commission into an Environmental Board;

that the Town should permit but not encourage new

tourism destinations;

and that an executive summary of the final plan will

be prepared;

question regarding desirability of regulation of ATV's,

tracks for use of which are currently allowed in

B-1 and B-2 zones;

question regarding definition of clustering, with

discussion of same,

answered that the term is to be defined by zoning

ordinance,

and that incentives for such shall be similar to as

described elsewhere in the plan;

question regarding definition of encourage;

question regarding definition of water budget;

question regarding scenic overlay districts,

answered that these should be addressed in the

open-space plan;

question regarding whether a zoning ordinance revision

Committee shall have continuity with this Committee,

and whether representation thereon by the Town of Rosendale

Planning Board is required,

answered that this is standard practice, but should be

made explicit,

with the Consultant to report to this Committee in regard

to legal requirements therefor;

and question regarding an update schedule for the

Master Plan,

answered that this should be accomplished every 2-5 years,

and can be performed by the Planning Board if desired.

There being no further business, the meeting was adjourned

at 10 PM.

Next Meeting: Monday, January 10, 2005 at 7 PM

These are the minutes of the meeting of the Town of Rosendale Comprehensive Master Plan Committee,

regularly held on Monday, December 13, 2004;

as ordered by Henry Robert; as taken this day

by me, Fred Greitzer.